Slowly head towards Samarkand by expanding Ajam. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You wont gain cores on them, butDagestan is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. All rights reserved. More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. Tbh, quality troops will usually win wars against the Ottomans. Like for example, if you get quality, economic, and offensive finished, that's +15% discipline. By doing so, youll deny the Russians a strategically useful area of operations, and protect your core land. Through, ideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. After the war ends they will quickly self- destruct through rebellions and other nations invading. After that, make Paris a state and assign a Pasha to it in the corresponding maintenance screen. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. Is there a way to actually defeat the Ottomans? If you wanted to hit them tech 15 infantry backed by cannons would be good, tech 16 would be better, but they get a resurgence in the value of their cav at 18-19. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Honestly, when I want to kill them, I just don't stop declaring war. What (military) ideas do you have? Decent generals, high morale and good army tradition can be of great help. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. Ottomans also tend not to upgrade forts so it's relatively quick sieging. Even if the Spanish took Ifni, you can take all the provinces in a single war. What do I do? It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. Helping out AI friends and building up long term rivalries and friendships can break the monotony. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy, which screws kebab over pretty hard. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing theJanissary Coupdisaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Who would win? Watch if you can either go around it by declaring war on an ally, vassalizing the state instead, or ask it kindly to break its alliance using the Great Power status. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is Thatta, in India. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. You can now also complete the missionConquer the Levantto grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. You need to win those navy encounters fast. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. All rights reserved. If you focus on taking down the Ottomans you can't be giving them respite. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. Once call for peace is sounded, you should peace out after a few months as it quickly becomes too expensive in dip to maintain. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. To repeat some more basic info (so you wont have to hop pages all the time), this EU4 Ottomans guide was written for patch 1.33.3 with all DLCs installed. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. Be ready to play defensively if Ottoman decides to choose you. Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when the, fires. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. If they also lag in mil tech you've got 'em on the ropes. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. Fortunately, theres a good chance these guys are allied. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. . Save up some of the power to reverse the stability effects and war exhaustion and just keep hitting them. Beats conquering, right? They will either leave you alone while they fight their war, at which point you can just focus on sieging down as many forts as you can, or they'll come straight to confront you, leaving themselves vulnerable in the other front (which means less area to call reinforcements from, income diminishes, war exhaustion goes up). Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. The rest of Europe was functionally cowed because after the first war I could just keep fighting them over and over and over again without them putting up a huge response. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. Make sure you get enough ships. Once you declared war on Tunis, expand Fezzan in the desert itself and take the powerful coastal provinces for yourself. Were in another race for influence this time in North Africa, against a much more formidable foe! I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. Valve Corporation. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! 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Try to disconnect their capital from asia. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. Most nations will want to be your vassal; conquer the remainder. Total is plus 83%. Moreover, we need a Moroccan province, Ifni. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to exp. Take at leastIfni, Malaga, Cordoba, Palermo,andMessinato Unify Islam. Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. Keep attacking them as soon as that truce is up. You are using an out of date browser. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Perhaps it's worth breaking truce with them as well. (Commonwealth). Good allies can be helpful to overwhelm them. To add on to this: Another good time to strike would be right after an important military tech, especially if you can grab it a few years ahead of time. I used to wait until late game to roflstomp them with my Vodka-fueled endless spacemarines but this is no longer an option, since on very hard they blob endlessly and since we share a border in Crimea, war will come. For example, in my Italy game I was fighting the Ottomans and their 200k soldiers with only 80k in the 1570's(no allies cause I just didn't stop eating). The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. If you're a relatively powerful nation like PLC, Hungary, Austria, castille, etc, you can just straight up declare war and beat them before they get big. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. Congratulations! The whole of the Bosporus should be your main target for conquest. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. It was something like 250/month ,but thanks to owning both North and South America I had huge treasury plus huge monthly income so it was no big deal. Which, if any, DLC do you have? If you don't have all the DLCs, make sure to at least get the Cradle of Civilization DLC. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy. . For the nations you choose to play and the courses you chart for those nations. I had about 100k troops and France, Austria, Venice, and Brandenburg on my side and we all got crushed, leading me to believe the Ottomans are just naturally supposed to dominate. More governing capacity means more states, and more states means more money. Best advice for beating ottomans is simply stop being intimidated by their numbers and fight them. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. Only having 49k is little. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. The next war should be much easier. The only way to stop the Ottomans is to overwhelm them on multiple fronts, since their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) Who're they allied to? I can understand the complaints about micro-managing, and it's especially true if you're colonial, but that's a consequence of choice in some sense. Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. Ottomans tend to move a 50k stack alone , they move it without having some reinforcements nearby.So you can easily attack this 50k stack and maybe stack wipe it. A few suggestions on improving existing mechanics: Yeah shipping troops around is not the most fun thing to do for me either. 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