SINCE THESE ARE MADE IN HOUSE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN QUALITY, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO PRODUCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITHIN THE SHIPPING TIME FRAME. December 16, 2012 in U.S. We offer gunsmith services for those who wish to send their gun in for evaluation and/or repair. means not intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation. Send a text to 208-660-5135 and well forward our ship to address and instructions. . A collector friend told me there were separate Model 1917 bayonets intended just for the trench gun. Be sure that your gun is a standard model 12 commercial chambered for 2 3/4 inc shells. Delivery time is estimated using our proprietary method which is based on the buyer's proximity to the item location, the shipping service selected, the seller's shipping history, and other factors. The correct bayonet for the Winchester 1897 Trench Gun is the M1917 model, which was also issued with the Enfield M1917 infantry rifle. The 1897 Model was available with different barrel lengths, different calibres of 12 and 16 gauge and as a solid or take-down frame. Mechanically excellent. Do this for all 3 screws. The Model 12 Trench Guns remained in service from WWII thru the 1990-91 Gulf War with most having have been rebuilt/reparkerized several times. These are 1942 marked. By shooting at them in a clay pigeon style fashion, troops managed to prevent them exploding into their own and Allied trenches. We are now offering the famous Winchester Model 12, 12 Ga Trench Gun using original Winchester Model 12, 12 Ga shotguns. Marines always like bayonets, so that was a plus for them with the Model 12 as well." With its bayonet attachment a new type of close-quarter combat had hit the trenches. Also, the securing bolts will likely need to be trimmed if you want the correct lengths. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. To this end, Remington submitted to the Ordnance Department a version of its 12-gauge Model 10 pump-action shotgun with a specially designed handguard and bayonet adapter. We do not make parts for repro guns or guns not listed on this site. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Winchester Trench gun heat shield 1897 & model 12 shotgun m1917 bayonet USMC at the best online prices at eBay! This weapon was issued to the U.S army during the War. This work is included in the conversion cost. The Winchester Model 12 pump-action shotgun is regarded as one of the finest repeating arms of the early 20th century. Looking forward to seeing the finished project. 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And, if so, how I do tell? There was no special Model of 1917 bayonet made for the U.S.-issue trench guns. All steel construction. They are not deep at all. Metal can't scratch metal if there is a layer of grease between . The Royal Armouries does not guarantee the continued supply of the Information. Includes "1917" dated Remington bayonet, scabbard, and canvas sling. Please specify which Price $207.00 $195.00 Price 207.00 includes shipping We buy decent used Winchester shotguns which are then totally torn down, cleaned, worn parts replaced, re-blued, reassembled and tested for proper function. No returns on layaways. I found the steel used in the handguard portion of these repros to be hard enough to stand up to normal use. Leaves approx. Also, the Model 12's bolt release lever, located at the rear of the triggerguard, was easier to locate with the finger than the button on the receiver of the Model 97. ****, Winchester Model 12 COMMERCIAL BARREL TRENCH GUN BAYONET ATTACHMENT. The Winchester 1897 Model was a redevelopment of John Moses Browning's (1855-1926), 1893 design. UPDATE: January 16, 2023 An ongoing supply chain issue means that we need to immediately put a hold on all NEW incoming trenchgun conversions shipments. One thing I noticed on this repro heat shield is the placement of the sling swivel. The Royal Armouries reserves the right to terminate this licence upon reasonable notice. Also, the securing bolts will likely need to be trimmed if you want the correct lengths. IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO WAIT AT LEAST 16 weeks do not place an order if you do not have an original trench gun you will need to make modifications to your gun. Combat Shotguns Message Board. this version should you wish to do so. Do this for all 3 screws. This gun has been nicely restored and retains 99% of its finish, with all markings clear and legible. They are not soft like some out there. which is not otherwise permitted by law. However barrels as long as 91 cm (36 in) could be ordered. I have never had an opportunity to inspect one of the Sarco heatshield/bayonet attachments so I can not speak as to whether or not this one is more rigid. WINCHESTER BRASS BEAD The bayonet lug shows hints of a plum patina, and the heat shield shows some dents. Starting at $949.00 - Call (208) 660-5135, Conversion Service: Winchester Model 12 Trench Gun Conversion, Repair Service: Winchester Model 12 Shotguns. to make Commercial Use of Our Content does/will not cover the Use of: The Content is licensed as is' and the Royal Armouries excludes all representations, warranties, obligations and liabilities in relation to the Content to We have carefully recreated the famous Winchester Model 1897 12 Ga Trench Gun using original Winchester Model 1897 12 Ga shotguns. I'm always impressed by the quality of the fit and finish on the M12. The left side of the stock is stamped with the Ordnance final inspection mark that consists of the initials "G.H.D." as a verb, means doing any act which is restricted by copyright or database right, whether in the original medium or in any other medium, and includes without limitation distributing, copying, adapting, modifying as may be technically necessary to use it in a different mode or format. , where You make any Non-Commercial Use of the Our Content or any Use of Our Crown Copyright Content: These are important conditions of this licence and if You fail to comply with them or make Commercial Use of Our Content without Our prior written consent It is capable of 'slam-firing', a technique where the trigger is held as the gun is pumped, resulting in a devastating rapid spray of 12 gauge buckshot. I can say that there is nothing cheap or flimsy about the East Taylor LLC heat shield. These were presumably made for use with the commercial-production Model 1897 trench guns made in the late 1920s or early 1930s. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. The blade was 17 inches (43 cm) long. eBay item number: 364104184857 Last updated on Jan 08, 2023 13:39:48 PST View all revisions Item specifics Royal Armouries grants you a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive licence to make Commercial Use or Non-Commercial Use of Our Crown Copyright Content IMPORTANT: OUR 97 BAYONET ATTACHMENT WILL FIT ONLY . These Terms and Conditions incorporate the definitions and other provisions set out in the main body of this Royal Armouries Website and Copyright Use The more common frame was the take-down versions. Joe Poyer". The M1917 is a 17-inch-long sword bayonet that attaches to the bayonet lug under the muzzle. There would have been absolutely no reason to put a special shotgun bayonet into production, as that would have served no purpose whatsoever, and it would only have complicated logistics. The 'Trench Gun' is the most famous variant of the Winchester Model 97. If you have a Model 12 of your own (12 Ga) we can convert it for $949 + $45 S&H. This licence does not affect your freedom under fair dealing or fair use or any other copyright or database right exceptions and limitations. This licence applies to information that is the copyright of the Board of Trustees of the Armouries. For the avoidance of doubt, where the Royal Armouries owns the IPR in any Content You are not permitted to exercise any of the rights As you can see, I do a thorough job, am nationally known, and have hundreds of existing customers looking for your gun! Added reproduction trench handguard. When America entered the War there was a need for more service weapons to be issued to the troops as the brutality of trench warfare and close-quarter combat became clear. Oh and sorry for necro-posting, I'm finding lil' info about the repros. Powered by Invision Community. The Controller may, from time to time, issue new versions of the Non-Commercial Government Licence. Many Model 12 field guns do not have the correct forearm or buttstock to closely match the original Winchester Trench Guns. Click here for more information. Trying to force the screw can strip it and or damage the threads in the attachment. Estimated Value *Using 80% condition for calculating used Values. *Caliber, Barrel Length, Generations, Sub Models may all affect item price. Seems to be very well made, and looks to be an accurate copy of the original though I've only seen pictures of originals. Repro Winchester Model 97/Model 12 Trench Gun Bayonet Attachment Repro Winchester Model 97/Model 12 Trench Gun Bayonet Attachment. The stock is fitted with a black, checkered, hard rubber buttplate with the encircled Winchester logo in the center and a parkerized sling swivel. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. The Royal Armouries is not liable for any errors or omissions in the Information and shall not be liable for any loss, injury or damage of any kind caused by its use. The Model 12 Trench Guns remained in service from WWII thru the 1990-91 Gulf War with most having have been rebuilt/reparkerized several times. These are important conditions of this licence and if you fail to comply with them or use the information other than for Non-Commercial purposes the rights granted to you under this licence, or any similar licence granted by the Licensor, will end automatically. Copyright 2000-2022 Machinegunboards.com The rest of this licence applies to your Non Commercial Use of Our Content and all use of Our Crown Copyright Content. Q. I just purchased an original World War I, U.S.-issue Model 1897 Winchester trench gun with a heat shield and bayonet lug. As for the sling, I have a vintage 1907 sling with brass hardware that has that "been there" look, I'm hopeing it will look right on the gun. Heat shield is very stiff and not likely to bend easily, bayonet adaptor looks nicely machined, it comes in the white so it will have to blued. Oct 20, 2022: The current wait list for Model 12 Trench Guns is open. We do not make parts for repro guns or guns not listed on this site. WE ARE CURRENTLY ACCEPTING NEW ORDERS AT THIS TIME. Now, to find someone who can add that stamped W to the finished mount for a finishing touch! NPRF - NON-PROFESSIONALLY REFINISHED/COLD BLUE, ETC. 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