What should I do? But I dont think his sister should be at all upset at him if he doesnt fly 1000 miles for her birthday dinner, and I do think the wife has cause to be upset if he goes without her. Sue Jones It was awesome because it was an excuse to get everyone together all at once, AND yes, a couple friends drove in from out of town. And dont forget that everything they know about you probably comes from him, too. January 15, 2013, 11:01 am. 28/02/2023. My sister in law started hating me because she was always saying terrible things about her husband and I disagreed with her on one of her rants. And Im still making compromises to protect my family my husband, and my MIL from their own familys particular brand of nasty. . It makes me sad to think that families are so fractured that asking for help is seen as ridiculous. This is what I was wondering as well! If youre not putting your spousal family first youre not mature enough to marry. I dont feel so bad for the husband. It was horrible and it was a direct response to my personality. Really, hes the only one to feel bad for if you ask me. I think its the formality of the get-together. Whether you can kind of understand why, or whether you're completely caught off guard, here are a few steps to take to deal with the frustration of not being invited. He hasnt cut down on nights out with the boys since meeting you, at all. If you deserve being excluded work on yourself. Remember, its a big deal introducing a partner to family members. Why hasnt the husband asked his sister why you were left off of the invitation? January 15, 2013, 10:39 am. While I cant promise its a simple reason why your boyfriend never invites you to family events, hopefully, you now feel much more confident about talking to him about it. They do it because they are evil and know it and they have to blame the victim. . i think the adult thing to do would be to go to the party, tell the sister that shes being a jerk, LW to graciously stay at home, and then for the SIL to look like the jerk that she is, like bossy italian wife said. This makes it sound like something is off in a marriage, when one person is this upset and cant even talk to their spouse about it. Those arent ridiculous requests. January 15, 2013, 9:53 am. lets_be_honest Her husband has already decided to go over her objections. When I got home, I realised that I was quite upset. Sure, I give my opinion, and sometimes he decides to go along with what Im thinking, but ultimately, I let him deal with his peeps and I deal with mine. I meant that I would be upset over it- it doesnt seem like the LW is though, shes only upset because her husband wants to go. But I guess that changes from person to person. And I already did that with another mutual friend (he was a real jerk & deleted me from Facebook after I offered to help him with a job search..) and I think he may have told her I was insecure when I sent him a similar message saying he's rude for doing that, and should have just told me to my face if he . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. But at least you would have ASKED. Vent to your close friends, if need be. I hope its nothing too heavy, too! Sorry, but this letter gives me n-o-t-h-i-n-g. All I can do is make assumptions. I wouldnt attend a party my own sister invited me to but didnt invite my fiance. Id be curious to hear your SILs side why shes excluding her brothers wife to an important event. In toda. They have made ridiculous requests of him (like contributing to their bills when we have student loans and a house down payment to save up for), including using his vacation time to clean their attic and him to spend weekends taking care of his grandparents, who refuse to accept Medicaid nursing assistance and insist on family care only. Anyways, we battle on together to keep our family united. Last year he decorated his backyard. That goes for ANYTHING in life. female
So if the LW hasnt stole/hit/cheated on the SIL then I think the husband needs to get to the bottom of it. i love any excuse for a good party. I think she should call the sister-in-law directly and try to find out whether there is a problem. January 15, 2013, 10:39 am. For a less dramatic example- my mom and my aunt (my dads sister) do not get along at all, but they both came to Christmas dinner at my grandmothers. January 15, 2013, 11:09 am. I think this would have been a great opportunity to have some fun, socialise, have a few drinks and meet new people! But yeah I will talk to him about it. Id like to know who issued the invite. to go without her. I would tell my husband to go and plan fabulous things to do that weekend on my own with my friends, family, or kids. Its polite, it shows you arent feeling vindictive about the whole thing. My advice is a bit different. If it was every now and again, or planned nights out with a mix of friends every other Friday that he likes being alone at or whatever, sure. you guys remember that one wedding letter about that? Katie, I respect that you want to be so drama-free and easy-going about social things. Negative feelings may still linger until the LW and SIL have it out and resolve things, but ground rules should be laid before things start getting ugly and ongoingand the first thing should be that neither lady can exclude the other from functions. The family likely already knows this or will find out. My step-siblings hated my mother, and for 30 years excluded me from family events in spite of my efforts to develop relationships and get along. I dont like my uncle but hes invited to my wedding because he is family. male
Can you check with the host to see if I can come along?" I wouldn't choose any of them as a friend. Read some of the most popular Dear Wendy posts here. While this is somewhat understandable, it can still hurt, but at least you know that's the reason. If he doesnt, he needs to give his sister a talking-to. So ask him. Even if theres no bad blood between the LW and the SIL, maybe one of the other in-laws is horrible and in order to exclude that person, the SIL has to exclude all spouses. Of course it did. Who the hell expects their brother to fly across the country for a small 40th birthday dinner? Just dont make this more difficult on him than it already is. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. Well crazy enmeshed and un-trusting (is that a word?). The only solution I can think of, is that maybe you can try a little bit of a game & see how it works: Don't ask him if you can go along with him anywhere anymore. I also have Catholic guilt. My SIL is a wonderful person. temperance Not fine. But if he NEVER invites you out, when the group is big and mixed, he just doesnt want to spend time with you. On the night of the occasion to which you weren't invited, don't stay home feeling sorry for yourself. the husbands family member was getting married in a very small ceremony, so small that only immediate family was invited? That was one of her life's biggest moments and it was her decision who to share it with. Sorry, adults who make a big deal out of their birthday annoy me. I havent asked him to do that because I dont want to put him in that spot. You would invite someone even if they behaved threateningly to you or someone you love (like your SO or your parents or a kid) or if they had a violent criminal conviction or if theyd actually hurt someone else youre inviting? Good one. You just cant work him out. This morning I realised that he never asked me if I was coming, so I mentioned to him that it hurt my feelings that he didn't even ask me if I wanted to come. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Its possible that sibling loyalty, however, would tell her to assist her brother in covering up the fact that it was HIM that preferred you not go. Fabelle The reasons I have seen PEOPKE not take sides is due to their own 2 faced behaviourthese people usually play both sides of the fence and are usually opportunistic people. i mean, i get it, you spouse should be your number one priority, but really- they dont like each other (for whatever reasons- it doesnt really even matter at this point, right? In fact in my family this would be more than a ridiculous request unless it was for an emergency emergency, it would be an insult we take care of each other, not enable each other to make bad decisions or fail to plan. The whole ten years we have been married she never called him for any events involving his sister or else wise. I feel bad about myself at this point. wow, I think your bfs only mistake was not having the ""s to tell you to get rid off your friends. AMAZING! Yeah it also feels like OP enables her bf to do whatever he wants in the relationship. Instead, always make other plans & act as though you could not care less whether he invited you anywhere or not. Addie Pray Until recently I didnt really notice him not calling me ANYWHERE, even though I already know his friends, and some of them even before I knew him. sometimes thats a good solution, and thats just how you have to coexist with certain people. Copyright 2023 Dear Wendy. People are going to have their differences with you, just like you have them with other people. I dont agree that his attending the party is a no-brainer. January 15, 2013, 1:39 pm. Because she is evil and controlling? I think it all goes back to what Wendy said have discussion(s) with your husband about the fact that this incident has shaken you to the core and caused you to doubt the foundation of your marriage. You dont want to make this a messier situation. The thing is, I always invite him, especially if were hanging out together and Im making plans for that evening. Nonsense. I agree. no hard feelings (hopefully? is causing him to abandon his wife for the weekend, travel to Chicago to party, spend money on airfare and whatnot, and she has absolutely no say because its his family? Ive had to fight my way into my in laws family, and they now know that we are a unit and they cant change that. Your friends and family are all adults! Now in lots of cases this isnt an issue where people use common sense, decency and can function like adults, and that pendulum can swing back and forth pretty easily, but if people dont behave then the problem shouldnt be left to fester At some point he is going to have to choose to stick up for his wife and insist that HIS family is treated a certain way by the rest of HIS family, or not, but he and his wife have to come to some sort of understanding and it doesnt seem like they are anywhere close. Lots of her friends are posting pictures from this party. Formal party? You dont care who messes with your home life. Things like; putting his friends before you, not being attentive to you, not making an effort, hanging out less and less, and so on. In my family/friends we are pretty informal, so even its not explicit plus ones are always assumed to be invited. But now, with this invitation, my feelings have been confirmed. Dear Wendy 4. /r/Relationships is a community built around helping people and the goal of providing a platform for interpersonal relationship advice between redditors. Press J to jump to the feed. Ops situation is quite different from yours.At 30 shes probably gf #8 ish, and hes become more cautious on introducing(hanging out) gfs to his friends and his friends care less of meeting new gfs unless they start becoming something serious. Addie Pray Do I have the right to hate him? She has to be his priority in the Should-I-Go-To-A-Party-My-Spouse-Wasnt-Invited-To situation. Not true at all. While the default position is to support your spouse, certainly you dont go along with bad behaviour just because it is your spouse. The fact that the LW did not follow up I wasnt invited to the party with and I dont know why! is definitely glaring. What is so wrong with wanting to have fun though, because that to me is all a birthday party is. I dont think youre reaching. Theres been many an occasion when Ive been excluded from family events in the past (for birthdays to weddings), and while its always insulting, at this point, 10 years into the relationship and 5 years into our marriage, Im happy to let him go visit on his own. From what LW says in the comments, it sounds like she accidentally and unknowingly offended SIL or SIL is just a passive-aggressive beyotch. Presuming thats the case, Im not really sure what Id do. We are not exclusive since we have never brought up the talk. He should stand besides his wife. The LW cant go into these dramatics about cracks in her marriage and expect people to be on her side without justifying why the exclusion is unfair (and I think it has to be a REALLY bad reason, like race or religion or the in-laws being abusive, for her to be this upset). it sucks that families dont get along, but it happens.. it sucks when new family members dont get along, but it happens. January 15, 2013, 11:56 am. Well thats where we differ. I find this to be inexcusably rude and would not want my husband to attend if I was in your shoes, LW. I would also try to find out why I wasnt invited. Ok, ok, we can be friends again. act like an adult! My husbands opinion is that a mailed invitation would have been really bad, but that the text method was only kind of bad. seriously, why would you even want to go if they are just a bunch of terrible people who hate you for no reason and would go to such lengths to let you know how they feel? so in this instance, the SIL is acting like an idiot- and you cant control that. Helping people, esp. January 15, 2013, 11:15 am. Whether youre the reason for the snub or she is stepping up and being kind from here on out can only help matters. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Hmmm. January 15, 2013, 3:56 pm. When I turned 40 I had some drinks with a few friends, I certainly wouldnt have been offended or upset at anyone who didnt want to come for any reason, because my birthday is not a big deal. Can I just say LW, that I feel so sorry for you that you see this as putting your husband in a bad spot whereas I would have hoped beyond hope that my husband wouldnt need my prodding to try and include me in family events. I really think you should be talking to your boyfriend about this, we can't give you any reasonable advise based on the 2 sentence conversation you guys had. Steeze Basically: "A person I thought was a dear friend is having a get-together and not only am I not invited but he/she is being all coy/silent about it." Believe me, I feel your pain and have no. (You know that old saying that in order to have friends you first have to be one.) I mean he wouls essentially be chosing his family and their rude ways over his wife, the woman he chose to marry. Confusion = Hes just not that into you. He doesnt need to stay home with you for him to know you guys are a unit. nope. His mom makes remarks sometimes about inviting me over to family events, but he never tells me. Do you usually decline party invitations or complain about going to them, not having any fun, etc? This is why not being invited somewhere can sometimes hurt. Not because the LWs behavior is remotely okay it certainly isnt. A genuine man who's ready to fall in love is going to be excited to let you into his circles. This shouldnt undermine the entire integrity of you marriage. But it is also possible that the LW is being excluded even though she did nothing wrong. I'm going to stand here with a sour puss on my face until someone does SOMETHING about all this debauchery.") He wants you there Im sure, he just doesnt want you to do anything embarrassing. So many little issues come up in marriage. The difference is, I expect him to stand up for me with his family. in general, you shouldn't expect other people to behave the way you would behave. I think you just have to be super straightforward. Usually no one is perfect and the fault will lie somewhere in the middle. But people have their own ways of doing things, and that's perfectly fine. . Red_Lady
If you dont, I can assure you that this wont be the last time you feel as if the foundation of your marriage is being tested. At face value what we know just from the content in the letter this is a huge slight. Leave marital advice to the pros, counsellors. I do understand not including them for dinner parties, etc. lets_be_honest 11. Blogging about a wide range of topics to help facilitate a better future. As for how to talk to him, BE HONEST. way to be the asshole in this instance, LW, and making your husband choose between family and his wife. January 15, 2013, 12:11 pm. Not everyone is going to get along all the time, and just like someone may have a problem with you, you may have a problem with someone else as well. If he really thinks the reason she wasnt invited is valid, he needs to talk to her about her behavior. January 15, 2013, 9:59 pm, And if you were expressly NOT invited and you have no idea why she is snubbing you, if that happened to me Id be SO SO SO worried that I did something to offend her. January 17, 2013, 4:26 pm. Whether it's a casual dinner followed by a movie, or going out to a bar and meeting new people, you won't regret getting out of the house and having a good time. Couples are a unit. We went out last weekend for my birthday with a few friends and I was happy and having a good time. The LW came across as snobbish, entitled and demanding. 152. make a big deal out of mardi gras, your birthday, your vow renewal, saturday- its cool with me. Not fine. Hey LW, just wanted to say that a) Im excited that you updated because we were all curious! Since youve remained mum for so long, your guy may not know the importance of this issue for you. I agree. thats a little controlling, no? This summer my sister invited me on a trip with her but did not invite my fiance. (And he probably wouldnt need me to even ask.) You are married and that makes you family. 4. Dan's future in-laws seemed pleased about their upcoming marriage and began making formal plans for the wedding. Soz. I always imagine Im giving advice to one of my friends after reading letters and I feel like the first question I would ask is, WHY do you think you werent invited. They just made a whole movie about turning 40, Addie Pray Some people were kind of cold, but everyone was polite and made an effort to re-include herMy point is, I never understood alienating or refusing to invite the significant other of a relative when it comes to family events unless said person is physically or emotionally abusive or prone to huge, drunken, racist tirades. On the one hand, I totally see Wendys point. the husbands family hated his mom for whatever reason, and so she just stopped going to FL when they went to visit. I know that if I invited my brother to something, it would be assumed that his wife would be invited. My SIL called him the other day to say they were making the brother a surprise bday and want him to be there at a certain time no invite to me- it was purposely made that way so I can hear that I wasnt invited. Addie Pray But like I said in another comment, the only valid reasons I see for this big of a snub are stealing, physical violence, or cheatng with the SILs spouse. Hes using their money to travel out there, depriving her of whatever his chores are while hes at home, etc. There are so many reason I can think of to why he wouldnt invite you to this party. If he's tired or hungover, this conversation will not end well. You like him, you like, really like him. January 15, 2013, 3:29 pm. Why doesnt he ask his sister why his wife wasnt invited? I see how I may have sounded extreme by saying that my husbands acceptance of this invitation shakes the integrity of our marriage. It's frustrating if this happens when it's just you and a couple, but it can also be weird when one person brings their date to say, a meet up of college friends. March 24, 2018, 12:44 am. Amybelle Men and women are invited to these parties and he is having one tomorrowto watch the fight. does your husband go to Chicago on business? I dont see how youre putting someone out by inviting them somewhere. There are ways to deal with this feeling and make the best of the situation. So last week i hung out with him and his friend and watched a movie and then he invited me to his house. I just want to say that in general, you shouldn't expect other people to behave the way you would behave. I didnt get carded! Which is cute and polite, no? Just wait, LW will send in a clarification that she is a black Ethiopian Jew who campaigned for Obama and her husbands family is staunch Irish Catholic and anti-immigrant Republican birthers. is their anything more agonizingly embarrassing then being sung Happy Birthday to in a restaurant? My (30m) boyfriend has never invited me (24f) to hang out with his friends even though their girlfriends always come along. Make a quick call to your SIL and tell her you heard the dinner was really nice and you just wanted to call and wish her a happy birthday. lets_be_honest But because the husband chose the LW, and chose to stay married to her. LW, you may have some self reflection in store even if you are totally blameless. no in-laws, no cousins-by-marriage, no friends, ect.. which is really stupid, to me, im a more the merrier kind of person, but im sure those kinds of people exist. Theres not a lot you can do about it, but I love the suggestion of a phone call after; once your husband gets back from the party. BUT. In other words, did he have any prior reason to have said such a thing? Whatever they may end up telling you, at least you've gained a new perspective, and you'll most likely feel better just talking about what's bothering you. Your. So my boyfriend of around 1.5 years attended a party tonight and he failed to extend an invitation to me. The point is the LW is his wife and that loyalty has to come first. I will always go to that party. DO mentally prepare yourself. January 15, 2013, 1:19 pm. I LOATHE my nasty, manipulative sister-in-law, her redneck sons, and their not-very-bright offspring, and must avoid discussions about them with my husband. However, I feel like there is a pretty big reason your SIL is excluding you specifically. Highly doubt it though. However, my husband feels differently. I wasn't invited to my boyfriend's family function, and I can't seem to get over it. If in doubt, read Hes Just That Not Into You (Picture: New Line Cinema). Confrontation is never fun, but the LW needs to get to the bottom of this situation for her own personal integrity, and because the situation will escalate in the future. I mean, I could certainly see myself reaching out to just my brother to tell him about a party and ASSUMING OF COURSE his wife would come. We only have a teeny bit of info that the LW decided to share with us. with a gushy note and an apology that sorry you couldnt make it as if you were actually invited paid for from your husbands credit card, of course! My boyfriend know about this but still failed to invite me and encourage me to get out there. Thry would always exclude her and hed allow it! Heres 22 signs he absolutely, under no circumstances, wants to be your boyfriend. i tried i give up, maybe im remembering wrong! you may have a really goofy laugh or do embarrassing things? Non hereditary Hair loss? I'd rather enjoy my free time rather than put the work in and feel resentful of your good time. Addie Pray The lack of details are very telling in situations like this. We have been together for so long, but it's been over a year since I've seen his family without being invited over. Not as a girlfriend, not as a friend, not as anyone. You create more drama and stress for the family and most of all the brother/husband with this move. I am using my vacation this year to help my sister move across the country for her new job. lemongrass But your boyfriend isn't responsible for that hurt and he's been placed in an awkward position of either upsetting you by attending the wedding even though you weren't invited, or hurting his close friends, thoughtless as they may appear, by missing one of the most important events of their lives. January 15, 2013, 9:35 pm, I was thinking the same thing! However, this doesn't seem like one of those times. Usually because he has vital nights out with the boys hes forgotten about. This post was published on the now-closed HuffPost Contributor platform. His response? At all. It will do you no good to pace back and forth, wondering if he's going to actually ask you to come along. Thankfully, we live far away from this SIL, and his other sister feels as I do about the Clampetts, so we have each other with whom to commiserate. However, this doesn't seem like one of those times. she definitely knows. You should have a better foundation than that but constant, endless slights do take a toll on a marriage and can break it over time. Why does her husband have to ask his sister why she wasnt invited, why cant the LW just grow some ladyballs and ask herself if it is such a big deal. They are very similar personalities. Melissa if its her/your husbands family well, be happy that you werent invited! If he did not succeed, the LW would at least know that he tried and together they could make a decision about whether he should go to Chicago without her. Ive never written to an advice column before and found Wendy by Googling for advice. He knows I am a fan of boxing. That just seems so strange. This is the fourth time he did this. January 15, 2013, 3:11 pm. I'm worried that down the line she'll find herself treated like a doormat. If we all got along, the world would be a pretty weird place. Feb. 6, 2019. Im sure you can be on your best behavior, at least for the first few times you meet his family. She should just MOA! Seeeven her own husband is here without her because well obviously she is the problemI would run away from that toxic cauldron. Im just not continuing to take this abusive behaviour. Where would you draw the line though? I actually wouldn't ask why he didn't want you there. It's helpful to start by thinking about why it might be that you weren't invited. There must be a reason. So I'm not up for it. I was sure youd just delete my comment. When you casually mention you have no weekend plans, he doesnt jump in and suggest you hang out. Its not so different in families. I've been seeing posts on social media from the party tonight and it looked really fun! Once you accept the fact that you weren't invited, and understand that it happens to everyone at some point and that everyone feels left out sometimes, it's easier to just move on from the situation. 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