I dont think you do. They, incorrectly, do not give it the attention it deserves. Well the distinctions you made about those who have had psych drugs and who have been institutionalized are good things to bring up. And Im not even past 55 yet! So far, she has not handled the PR issues correctly, and by correctly I dont mean to lie or hide the truth. This whole video reeks like a ad misericordiam, the logical fallacy that because someone should be pitied, theyre innocent. The passing of Tyler Tweed has brought a lot of sadness to Tyler Tweed family, and lets pray that their mourning and agonizing end sooner. Certainly, any raw public exhibiting Type III behaviour would be refused service. I think it is the show that has created this belief that Scientologists dont go to Doctors. Dj Sumbody Obituary, What was Dj Sumbody Cause of Death? I used to think, Well, Mike is a supporter of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Thought, so he just tries to interfere as little as he can, you know. Many critics are so focused on moral issues that they pound away at things that simply do not matter, thankfully, to any government. Bristol, VA -Leo Tignor Tweed, age 81, passed on Wednesday, April 6, 2022, in Oakmont at Gordon Park. Find 3 people named Tayler Tweed along with free Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok profiles on PeekYou - true people search. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore.. Progress Remini and Rinder's exploitation of Tayler's death prompted her mother to write to A&E, stating "I am horrified that A&E and Leah Remini are exploiting for financial gain the tragic death of my daughter Tayler Tweed who died by suicide three years ago. This became more evident after GAT2 when the Survival Rundown was implemented, and most Objectives completions had to either re-do their whole Objectives, or get audited on additional Objective processes for dozens (or even more than a hundred) of hours. Kaiser Earl Lynch. Taylor Funeral Home, Inc. has endeavored to provide the most up-to-date information for the families we serve. Some ppl have questioned the fact that Taylers friend was the one speaking out and I can see why. Its like that organ cant get sick. Getting rid of David Miscavige as _Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is.. But in my opinion, most of these abuses are not based on sensible uses of the existing Scn policies, but in misinterpretation of them, or using them in fundamentalistic ways without proper discernment and good judgement. Douglas farmed from the age of 14 until retirement in 1999 on the Tweed Century Farm in rural Sand Creek. You are not the victim in this story, there is only one. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. Either you are dumb enough to do it or your not. He was a life member for more than 74 years with the Americus Hose Company, Bloody Third Ward. Yet he criticises the ones who do. I dont know where this idea that Scnists dont believe in doctors came from (Leah? Currently, Tyler Tweeds death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tyler Tweed Obituary and want to get a real update. Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out. Its not right to leave out information just so you can demonize someone. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Thats just part of the anti-Scientology narrative conveniently created by the anti-Scientology camp to drive home their own personal agendas. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. October 11, 1970 - February 26, 2023. Find an obituary, get service details, leave condolence messages or send flowers or gifts in memory of a loved one. Why are you working so hard to defend her? For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. How many times was I PERSONALLY told about this by the people who had this experience? But Lauren hadnt seen Taylor in 10 years. Shar, did you even took the time to read my looong post at this thread?? That pisses me off the most! What drives ratings? Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Yep ,,,, I am beginning to believe the man at the top is deliberately creating situations to implode the group,, He has already positioned himself into the only one category Tech Dict: All criminals are in that bracket ,,, His tone floats around the hostile band, and his ideals are clearly MEST related ,,, The Org Bd has long since been dropped and by-passed in favor of command channels only. He is somewhat psychotic, actually, you know, a little like LRH himself got. What if Tayler was your daughter? Can they reform? Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? But now my concern is with my daughter and her mom. The object of Twain's wrath was William A. Clark, a Pennsylvania native who eventually moved to Montana and made fortunes in banking, mining, newspapers, railroads and other ventures. Search Tweed obituaries and condolences, hosted by Echovita.com. A LOT is based on hearsay, which at almost every court of law in the planet would be considered as inadmissible evidence, and for obvious justice reasons. Tayler Woolston Obituary, Death - The North Tonawanda community said a student who had a very special place in their hearts passed away this past week. Why do you think its Cathy Tweeds duty to prostrate herself before you? We love you, Tayler. Butlets go get tattoos so we can feel better about it. Must be Hurracaine Irma! I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. Alanzo: Very, very accurate description!! No religion has the freedom to deny medical care that then results in death. Glasscock's classic 1935 book . Of course you proved your point. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. Painting her as a drug addicted person who would not do the work is revolting. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. Or you just like the anti Scientology narrative?. So lets look at this. With adults, I think its a slippery slope to tell them what they should or should not believe in and practice. Perhaps I need MEDICATION, I must be going crazy or something, because, I mean, this is just me and a very few others who think like this. He was born in Wilton, North Dakota. And then over 2 years later, Tony Ortega brought in a licensed family therapist, Rachel Bernstein, to psychoanalyze the quotes from Cathy Tweeds which were made the day after her daughters funeral. This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor! I dont necessarily doubt that a person can benefit from medical treatment for brain illnesses. Remove (or reform, or rehabilitate) such individual form the scenario, and sanity will find its way in again, I guarantee you that. They either didnt fight back, or just willingly accepted what was happening to them. Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. These could be briefly catalogued as: (and he gives a list). Ian Taylor, who has died of cancer aged 64, was an international oil trading tycoon who also rescued Harris Tweed and chaired the trustees of the Royal Opera House, of which he was a generous . But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. I think you just hate Scientologists and you want to vent your spleen on one here on the Internet and so a mother who lost her daughter to suicide will do just fine for you. Hi Alanzo! Whether or not this is specific to sea org indoc, i dont know,, my experience has been with class 5 orgs as staff and public, tho the presence of advanced org staff has been more noticeable during the last period i was back on service 2005 -2010. Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. Searching obituaries is a great place to start your family tree research. The second half which concerned Tayler Tweed did make me feel uncomfortable because I kept thinking about how devastating this must be to the mother and other relatives. , Good point, I give you that! This is EXACTLY why the anti-Scientology narrative is so DANGEROUS; because it can turn good people into Fair Gamers themselves, totally neglecting the Human and civil Rights of those whose belief system they disagree with. Whatever this woman says relating to how she tried to help cannot be taken seriously because she followed Hubbard.that makes her statements and response null and void.. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Naturopaths? This phenomenon is WELL KNOWN on the medical and psychotherapeutic community. I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. Attention whore and trying to look like the good guy. At one point in time, this lady dared to question one of her husbands beliefs, which enraged the man resulting in a heavy beating and even rape of this lady. Again, its a matter of freedom of religion as well as separation of church and state. Ex Ireland rugby player David Tweed dies aged 61 | Daily Mail Online Davy Tweed, 61, played international rugby five times for Ireland in the 1990s The unionist politician was convicted of. So we all must be at least a little bit paranoid. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. In this light, it appears The Aftermath has but one goal: To rain upon the church so much bad PR that the public is repulsed. Did you miss this from my reply? Hell, I just got booted out of a Facebook group for being a little too conciliatory Scn theory-wise. Basically, its not a universal given that family has to be placed first in the search for spiritual freedom unless thats your belief. Currently, Tayler Woolston's death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tayler Woolston Obituary and want to get a real update. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. Tyler is a 2016. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. There was no need to insult you. People commit suicide under the care of the best psychiatrists, too, right? It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. About not showing compassion when one former member of the religion (or whatever group for that matter) has suffered a loss or any abuse, regardless if the group in question is guilty of or not of such abuses or losses. Technically, what Mike and Leah are doing IS a documentary. He, along with Marcus Daly and Frederick Heinze, was one of the three "copper kings" so eloquently portrayed in C.B. Seems that most of her information came from FB and text messages that Tayler had with a friend. As you probably know, thats from the Bible quoting Jesus. I noticed the same thing about how the staff was being turned into uncaring individuals by the implementation programs enforced by DM. Thats just rhetorical horse shit! You end up having to lie and cover over important information and over simplify things to mold disconnection into a weapon that creates a moral panic around scientology. Clearly people go through much worse situations and never commit suicide. SCIENTOLOGY IS THE LOW BLOW. Carl Smith, Jr. Georgie Ann Glaser. Lets put Karen De La Carriere on that list, and we are all set, That specific group of 6, plus their sheeple decided upon a VERY specific narrative since SEVERAL years ago, and since then their specific agenda DOES NOT include reformation AT ALL. If the disability is pronounced to be curable within the skill of the physical practitioner and is in actual fact a disease or illness which surrenders to contemporary physical treatment, to require the person to be so treated before Scientology processing may be undertaken; (End of quote). Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out.. Guest12, of course that the church have committed many Human Rights abuses, and of course that there is truth to those stories. Then I watched a YouTube video from the Vulcan First Officer Chris Shelton where he was using Critical thinking to mock that absurd idea of an Anti-Scientology Cult. This is not about leaving the so called church, it is about the stupidity of joining and believing. Please, be so kind to exactly quote or present the exact time tap(s) in that 2nd episode of The Aftermath where ANY ACTUAL evidence was presented as to Taylers mother Cathy Tweed having thrown out her daughter or disconnected from her. The mother has no room to talk when she let her belief structure blind her to real issues. With that being said, let's further investigate the truth and . In fact when I was in I was told to go to a medical doctor twice. Of course he knows. The sudden death is a heart-wrenching event for all the friends and family. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment? It is a dangerous brain illness. I couldve said the same stuff about Tayler and I never met her. At that above link, youll be able to see that the opposition against psychiatry is something WIDELY shared by many groups including medical doctors and different kinds of psychotherapists THEMSELVES and an opposition that HAVE existed independently of Scn and even before it. Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. In the other teaching (Rons too, I would say), Know is where intuition and wisdom lie. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. With your response here, I really have a hard believing you know anything about suicide at all. Obituaries can vary in the amount of information they contain, but many of them are genealogical goldmines, including information such as: names, dates, place of birth and death, marriage information, and family relationships. : https://alanzosblog.com/critics-scientology-withdraw-support-direction-season-2-scientology-aftermath/. Depression can result in death. Absolutely. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong? The girls drifted apart throughout the latter years of. Of course, we were mostly trying to avoid future lawsuits and PR flaps. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. Dedicated to a wonderful person who left too soon. Sure. Then, sooner or later, they might actually listen. Cuts both ways. Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. Ms Remini and her team arent spreading hate. Im truly amazed at how much the descriptions of their students barriers to awakening sound like a description of the reactive mind! How about the fact that she never refers to Tayler as her daughter!! And what drives TV? Its similar to families who bring their kids up seeming to dote on them, but murder them in an honor killing lately. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? Are you following me all right so far, dear Henri Chef? Now, the anti-Scientology movement will try to get us to believe that most Scientologists doesnt believe in medical doctors, and that they never seek proper medical treatment. So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. To plant Memorial Trees in memory of Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards, please click here to visit our Sympathy Store . She was 27. So they should pay taxes as any other professionals from the psychotherapy community do. Now she is defending the cult. Yeah, I made it through just fine; thanks for asking! Currently, our team is striving hard to know what Tyler Tweeds cause of death was. Not that much if compared with the expected scenario. And so it is a waste of time to harp on that if you really want to make scientology less dangerous. I get that you dont have much confidence in the tech (leave aside the church) but I do. As opposed to Laurens Haggis narrative, mine is not hearsay. She was regularly having suicidal thoughts and always been sent to auditing or naturopaths instead of to a competent mental health provider. Way to absolutely avoid the question.. But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? My only regret is that it opens up Cathy Tweed to cruel second-guessing by people like you. For his role as a spiritual healer, or advisor, no licensing is expected, of course. Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation. Criminal acts are not covered by the first amendment. Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !!. They just want them off their lines, so they can concentrate on the able.. He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. What are you going to say? Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !! Tayler Woolston Obituary has been recently searched in a more significant amount of volume online, and moreover, people are eager to know What Was Tayler Woolston Cause Of Death. Charles Cain. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems.. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. Theyre telling peoples stories. And if the HE goes, then THEY would start acting sane. I couldnt have said it any better, Statpush! Pseudoscientists in Scientology? I consider my point PROVED! Whereas the Aftermath program clearly had Facebook messages from Tayler asking for help, and of Cathy pushing Tayler away. Thank you, Jim Dandy!! Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. So, they have this idea, that if they publically expose the churchs harmful practice, and rub their nose in it, that the church will reform and cease such actions. THEY TREAT PEOPLE WORSE THAN THE NAZIS! Taylor was not only a daughter, sister, and granddaughter, but also a dedicated volunteer at NTHS. I went to see a doctor, did the tests, was found with my triglycerides very high, and my blood pressure high enough so as to be put on a special diet (I used to eat a lot of junk food back then; now, I dont), which I did long enough to get everything back down to normal. The reg was flabbergasted with me but he finally said, Well if you just dont want to do it then I wont make you do it. I cant fault you on your logic. In my mind, at least the point about freedom of religion did relate to Cathy Tweed. My judgement even though I wasnt that high on the org board was always seriously taken into account by both the Snr C/S and the ED. I updated my reply to you with another link where Tony dragged her through it a 2nd time on his blog. Yes, I pity this family, but they are not innocent. What she went through is horrific. "Tweed" Mummert passed away at McDonough District Hospital on January 3rd, just 3 weeks shy of his 98 th birthday. Tyler Tweed Death, Obituary - Tyler Tweed of Marshall, Wisconsin, has reportedly died unexpectedly with loved ones, family and the entire community left heartbroken and in grievance, according to online sharing. That is what a strawman is. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. The first time Tony reported on Tayler Tweed was from a phone conversation with her mother the day after her daughters funeral. There really is nothing there TO reform. Aliens? This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. For Christs sakes, what is Thursday Funnies and Regraded Being about If not about mocking the church? What about Scientology kids. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. And unfortunately, human misery and tragedy have entertainment value. This screams Scientology to me. She went from a Where is Leah these days to a Leah Remini is an awesome badass. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. I think it was before I was to start onTRs and Objectives. Yes Ms Tweed-we need kindness, love and respectwell said. 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