Primarily interested in warlock and Druid. to their groups. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment This is a great stat Items are sorted by damage value, using my own calculated values. Each of these posts comes from 2007 and was updated throughout the expansion. LOT better TBC Balance talent design than what Vanilla/Classic calls a talent tree. Druid stat priority tbc. Great farming spec if you want to fly around sucking clouds in Outland. extra Spell Damage through Lunar Guidance. Stat Priority for Balance Druids 2. Restoration Druid - Main - Updated by a friend of mine - Combo Points Druid Restoration - Buffs & Proccs Druid Restoration - Cooldowns Balance Druid Ui - Affliction Warlock Ui - Inspired by birgs DruidUi. A paladin tank should be able to keep things off of you with just a bit of lead. contained might be extremely hard or expensive to get. Great farming spec, especially if you have an alchemist alt. Stats. We'll see what happens. Subtlety (1/5)Moonkin can generate pretty decent threat due to their lack of a threat-drop, this will reduce this issue, but you should weight how many points go into this talent with Dreamstate. best Arena classes, especially in the smaller brackets. Can be good if youre fueling LW with it. If you find yourself mana limited it is obviously an option to get both talents fully. Maybe it doesn't matter. Frequently Asked Questions 3. It Very important talent for your DPS. Because of this, you will need to be careful with Wrath. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Thus, we will try to give No, but the thing about TBC is that a skilled player on any class is better than a bad player on a "top tier" class. The Restokin spec is a jack of all trades, master of none, which is You will also be able to use It's great I'm receiving credit via the poster through Reddit, but isn't visible on the sheet itself. Resistance, while inherently niche due to different bosses dealing different Balance Druids, check out our guides below: This guide has been written by Seksi, original Burning Crusade Press J to jump to the feed. We provide more options below, some of which are very Bow tank in phase 2. is an important stat to have on every piece of gear possible as it is simply a Classic Balance Druid Spreadsheet v1.8. For 12 seconds per minute, a Moonkin can also have Barkskin up for an additional 20% damage reduction. in a fight. Press J to jump to the feed. powerful buffs (Innervate) and debuffs (Improved Faerie Fire) And they knew about it in 2005 too! on. That being said, you do the same thing, but without the availability to tank for the raid. solo / pug player in preparation for raids. Blizzard should hire this guild master guy and let him make the calls around here. Tier 6: Thunderheart Regalia2 piece: Longer lasting Moonfire. Each point of Intellect gives an additional 15 max Mana and a small increase (Fury/Prot tanks did exist in TBC! Anyone have links to any good BIS spreadsheets with stat weights and values? Why? Keep in mind, not all of the things discussed are going to be around in the exact order of release in TBC Classic. Unlike other classes, Druids do not have a choice when it comes to race. for PvE content. When I get back to my PC Ill message you the best BiS sheets out there for Locks. Click the links below to navigate the guide The Cipher of Damnation - The Third Fragment Recovered, 1. Edit: You can find feral (Tank & Dps) and Heal BIS values on Taladril's spreasheet ! This is bad Getting the hit cap is important for your damage and Thus, your only choice is which faction you want to choose, which We only take 1 point to enable the tier 3 talents. Lets remember what this expansion is known for punishing: Melee. 2h a significantly higher dps if weaving but majority of hunters don't weave. Please keep the following in mind when posting a comment: Your comment must be in English or it will be removed. Also, it's been noticed that Moonfire may become optimal for our rotation in the early phases of Classic due to the unique timeline and structure of the game which no one has ever experienced on a pserver. Just watch out for cleaves and stay behind the boss so you wont end up parry-gibbing your tank. heal and reliably crowd control in PvP scenarios! fuck me its like staring at your grandparents in a see through coffin. I am currently working on updating the sheet for Classic, which yes, these will change. Gems can change based on your build, equipment and caps. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Due to this, in general, most top-tier players avoid the class, and gravitate towards classes that shine on the meters or provide a critical role in raid. even if you cast something in the last 5 seconds (contrary to Spirit) and should A good player knows when things are going south with raid damage and will swap out to help, or if a healer goes down and the MT needs some padding. Moonkin form gives the same +400% armor bonus as does Dire Bear Form. I get that it's hard to evaluate against stat values but that seems laughable in the world of modern theorycraft. Balance Druid Helm. TBC Phase 5 / Sunwell Plateau Balance Druid Tier Set Balance Druid Tier 6, the Thunderheart Regalia, is obtained from the following bosses: Helm Archimonde in Hyjal Summit Chest Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple Legs The Illidari Council in Black Temple Shoulders Mother Shahraz in Black Temple Gloves Azgalor in Hyjal Summit Restoration + Druid Gear and Best in Slot, Survival + Hunter Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities, Affliction + Warlock Enchants, and Consumables, Wrath Classic Phase 2 Launching on January 17th, Naxxramas Achievement Rewards to Remain Available Throughout Wrath Classic, Patch 3.4.1 PTR Development Notes: January 6th, Summon Gargoyle Changes on the Wrath Classic PTR, Ahead of the Curve and Cutting Edge Achievements Coming to Wrath Classic, No Changes Planned for Ulduar Tier Sets Beyond 6 Item Level Bump. Id rather go OOM and mana pot/ dark rune than stack MP5 as a DPS. You will need x% to be hit capped. While only tank is considered a top tier spec, Balance brings powerful buffs May as well snag drums while youre at it. Balance druid is fun as hell in TBC. TBCC Balance PvP Talents and Build: Restokin 1. this from gear without needing to worry about it. Restoration Druid Spreadsheet. This means that you can effectively swap out idols in the middle of casts. You 2. The best example is hit cap. Hi? Our goal is to do the most complete research so you don't have to. Another great resource for rogue tankinghttp://rrvs.blogspot.com/2008/09/rogue-tanking-1018.html. More Mana means more casts before the fight is over. Tier 4: Malorne Regalia2 piece: Mana return proc. [Review] Ruined King: A League of Legends Story. Their 4 piece set bonus from their dungeon set means they will prioritize this set bonus when seaking out upgrades. healing spells, and has higher values for the same item level item as Spell With Totem of Wrath, 113 rating. big one, especially when compared to what other classes get. Yep. Spell Damage increases the damage done by your spells by a flat amount. You However, due to your Vengeance talent, your When socketing, only fill sockets to get the bonus if it is worthwhile, be that the socket itself or to fill a meta gem requirement. Unlike Classic, which actually had a lot of unknowns, players solved TBC. When you crit with a spell, you trigger Natures Grace. Looked at druid in the theory crafting wiki and saw they mention balance druids as bring bad and no reason to ever bring one to raids, but legacyplayers has a lot of logs with a balance druid in them. This leads to some limited encounters where they make very good tanks. HibernateAnimal CC, quite potent in a limited number of situations. Useful raid and group buffs, especially if you lack someone with. For further mana savings, downranking to Starfire rank 8 gives the best efficiency. This takes some time to learn, and there will be certain fights where your availabilty as a hybrid class will show, like Nightbane for example. Subject to Diminishing Returns in PvE as well as PvP, so not a long-term CC ability. These conversions make Moonfire, Starfire x4 + and variationsUsed with the 2pc t6 bonus and/or high levels of spell haste. Druids are the only class in the game capable of fulling all four roles: Moonfire, Wrath x8 and Moonfire, Insect Swarm, Wrath x7High DPS, high mana consumption. Dw slightly better woth weight stones and no weaving. Occasionally you see people suggest Moonkin main tanks. The general goal is to kill the Warlock pet (twice) and then kill the Warlock . Aim for 100% lifebloom uptime on a tank or priority target. Finally, Taurens Stats Explained for Balance Druid 3. TBCC Balance PvP Talents and Build: Restokin, Feral + Druid Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities, Demonology + Warlock Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities, Balance + Druid Enchants, and Consumables, Beast Mastery + Hunter Enchants, and Consumables, Enhancement + Shaman Gear and Best in Slot, Wrath Classic Phase 2 Launching on January 17th, Naxxramas Achievement Rewards to Remain Available Throughout Wrath Classic, Patch 3.4.1 PTR Development Notes: January 6th, Summon Gargoyle Changes on the Wrath Classic PTR, Ahead of the Curve and Cutting Edge Achievements Coming to Wrath Classic, No Changes Planned for Ulduar Tier Sets Beyond 6 Item Level Bump, Healing Druids (Moonglow/NG) - Crit Chance, Jolteon 1 - Pendulum of DOOM PvP - Level 39 BiS Enhancement Shaman TBC. On fights where you score crit after crit, youll start to notice this talent really shine. The 5% increased health This guide has been written by Seksi, original Burning Crusade As a caster, your spells have a 16% chance to miss against bosses. At this point you can safely drop Tailoring and Until capped, Spell Hit is the best value per point. Found 497 results. They offer strong damage, (ranged, physical damage). While FoN is decidedly a situational spell, and hardly the strongest of 41 point talents, it does do reasonable damage if you time them right so they stay alive to do full damage. This guide has been written by Seksi, original Burning Crusade While your restoration druids will likely have this covered, it never hurts to have, and is better than Furor, which youll use far less. Phase 5 / Sunwell Plateau Best in Slot Table, 3. A relatively clean/gray-scale UI discord - owl#4626 The other addons you are seeing are probably WA, ERT, Details, or . 4.2 Stamina. can get the 4-piece Tier 6 bonus and do not need to rush to obtain these pieces. 24, for bosses) and that Nature Immune targets are not affected. You also want to get Improved Faerie Fire as a raiding Balance Everyone is welcome to join us on the Druid discord to keep up to date or visit the Nostalrius Class forums (I will publish official updates there.). Spell Healing works exactly like Spell Damage, but it only applies to your But you have to be prepared to add 1% if you lose the draenei, or add 3% in the event youre in a 10 man kara without your full buffs so you might carry extra hit pieces to swap. 3% Proc rate of 209 damage in Moonkin.The t6 class trinket, [Ashtongue Talisman of Equilibrium] is useful once you stack enough haste to have the proc up reliably.Other trinkets[Alchemist's Stone]: A very nice trinket now just for the mana regen boost, [Sorcerer's Alchemist Stone] is extremely strong, particularly for the (lack of) difficulty to attain it.Non-class/profession trinkets, very roughly in order of utility:[The Skull of Gul'dan][Hex Shrunken Head][Timbal's Focusing Crystal][Icon of the Silver Crescent][Eye of Magtheridon]The following trinkets are also good to look into, but vary drastically by situation:[Darkmoon Card: Crusade][The Lightning Capacitor][Quagmirran's Eye], Weapon: +40 damage, Sunfire (50?) LOT better TBC gear itemization (particularly leather in the case of Druids). The guide includes talents, gems, enchantments, and rotation information. tank, casting range, but also makes them be hit by enemy abilities more easily. Some would argue that your feral druids in TBC are your most important playerssince they fulfill critical roles when needed and supply good DPS and support when not needed to tank. ), Druid (Feral) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080912152751/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16902-feral_druid_megathread/, Druid (Tree) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080913120521/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17783-druid_raiding_tree/, Druid (Moonkin) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080827012509/http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t21687-druid_balance/, Hunter (Downloadable spreadsheet) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080913121430/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t9816-hunter_spreadsheets_--_development/, Mage - https://web.archive.org/web/20080912152751/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18441-mage_sweet_informational_thread/, Paladin (Heal) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080912152751/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16934-healadin_thread/, Paladin (Ret) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080913120506/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17193-paladin_retribution_dps_theorycraft/, Paladin (Tank) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080811083713/http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t21425-paladin_protection/, Priest (Heal) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080914052358/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t23790-priest_holy_raiding_compendium_v2_wow-2_4_0_a/, Priest (Shadow) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080912152751/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16977-shadow_priest_101_how_melt_faces_effectively/, Rogue - https://web.archive.org/web/20080914123352/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16940-roguecraft_101_a/, Shaman (Elemental) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080913121540/http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20914-shaman_elemental/, Shaman (Enhancement) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080913120332/http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement/, Shaman (Heal) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080912152751/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t19181-shaman_how_heal_like_pro/, Warlock - https://web.archive.org/web/20080811093806/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17008-warlock_pve_raiding_compendium/p144/, Warrior (DPS) - https://web.archive.org/web/20080913120556/http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t22705-dps_warrior_compendium/, Warrior (Tank) - https://web.archive.org/web/20150802020137/http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/18617-the-protection-guide/. 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